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To those in the Dayton, Oh area...

People/Animals Network (P/AN) will hold our annual demonstration at the
Pork Conference in Downtown Dayton, Ohio at the Convention Center on
Friday, Feb. 20 at 12:00 Noon to 1:00 PM.

For more info: <mailto:[e-mail]>mailto:[e-mail]

Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 09:38:25 -0800
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Mutant mice may hold secret to regenerating limbs

Reuters News Service
PHILADELPHIA, February 15, 1998

Heber-Katz started an experiment on multiple sclerosis, she bought
several dozen specially bred mice for her work. She never dreamed they
would open up the possibility that injured people might regrow lost
limbs.

It started with standard laboratory housekeeping.

"I asked an associate to ear punch, to number, the animals," she said
Saturday. This involves punching a small hole in the ears of the mice.

But three weeks later when she checked the mice, there were no holes. "I
came down and said, 'What did you do?"' Heber-Katz told a news
conference. The associate shook her head and helped Heber-Katz punch
more holes in the ears of the mice.

Again a few weeks later, they checked the mice, and the holes had nearly
healed. It wasn't just ordinary healing, but one in which "you could not
find where the wound had been," Heber-Katz said.

Heber-Katz, an immunologist, knew she was onto something. She consulted
other scientists and realized the mice were not experiencing normal
healing, which involves scarring, but tissue regeneration.

It looked just like what happens in amphibians such as frogs, which can
grow back lost limbs.

Heber-Katz is presenting her findings for the first time to the American
Association for the Advancement of Science's annual meeting in
Philadelphia.

She is not sure how she will translate her findings into actual therapy,
but she and colleagues at the Philadelphia-based Wistar Institute, a
private research facility funded in part by the National Cancer
Institute, are trying to do just that.

There seems to have been an evolutionary trade-off in mammals like mice
and humans. Their bodies defend against tumors, but the same process may
prevent the ability to regenerate limbs, Heber-Katz said.

She hopes to find a way to turn it back on. One trick will be to turn it
on without causing tumor growth.

In normal scarring, the body builds up a protein matrix in between the
layers of skin. In the mice, this matrix was being broken down.

Genetic tests have pointed to seven possible genes -- one of which might
also be involved in embryonic wound healing. Doctors know unborn babies
in early development can be operated on in the womb and no scars will
show when they are born, but this regenerative ability is turned off
after birth.

Heber-Katz thinks immune response is somehow involved.

"One of the things that is missing in amphibians is a complex immune
system," she said.

The mice she was using are specially inbred to have auto-immune
responses -- their immune systems turn on themselves, mimicking the
effects of diseases such as lupus and multiple sclerosis.

Two different versions of these mice showed the same effects, so she is
not sure how much is due to the immune cells, and how much to other
genetic mutations.

She could not say why no one discovered the ear healing before, since
ear punching is a common practice with laboratory rodents.

T-cells, immune cells that fight invaders and kill abnormal cells like
those seen in tumors, seem to be involved. The mice that heal are
missing some types of T-cells. "(But) you can't just eliminate
T-cells. You have to have the right mixture of genes," she said.

Perhaps a mixture of gene and immune therapy could be used to stimulate
the process, she said.

First she has to see just what is going on in the mice. She has not gone
so far as to cut off a whole ear or limb to see if it comes back, but
she did snip off a short bit of tail -- about a centimeter
(half an inch). About 75 percent grew back.

"The regrown tail looks normal but we have not sat down and done a
study," she said.

Chopping off longer pieces of tail did not work so well. The mice
started bleeding too heavily and the tissue had to be cauterized. "It
didn't grow back," Heber-Katz said.

By MAGGIE FOX, Health and Science Correspondent
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 09:44:01 -0800
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Communication skills among apes charted

Reuters News Service
PHILADELPHia, February 15, 1998

Language is not the exclusive domain of the human race, say researchers
who contend that apes are skilled enough in the art of communication to
instruct their young and organize meetings among adults.

Although linguists believe language skills reside solely in the
structure of the human brain, anthropologists have found the ability to
communicate may be one of the evolutionary links between humankind and
our closest relatives in the animal kingdom, apes.

"They look like us, they think like us, they feel like us. They are like
us," Georgia State University researcher Sue Savage-Rumbaugh said
Saturday at a meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of
Science. Savage-Rumbaugh, one of the world's leading authorities on
primate communication, studies chimpanzees and bonobos -- African pygmie
chimpanzees -- at the Language Research Center in Atlanta, where
communication between human and primate is conducted mainly though
computer-generated images.

She also has ventured out into the natural bonobo habitats in the
jungles of central Africa.

Apes in the wild smash plants as a way of marking trails between their
feeding grounds and tree-top retreats, she said. There also is reason to
suspect they use silent communication to decide when to leave the trees
and where to gather afterwards.

Meanwhile, results of studies at the research center suggest apes
understand semantics and syntax so well that Savage-Rumbaugh wonders if
they are unable to speak only because they lack a human voice tract.

"When they can pour the milk into the juice, instead of pouring the
juice into the milk, that's evidence for an understanding of language,"
she told a news conference.

As a scientist, Savage-Rumbaugh has been derided by colleagues who
contend that language is produced by an asymmetrical brain structure
found only in humans. They argue that animals' faculty is mere instinct.

But that, she contended, may parallel early scientific prejudices which
cast African hunter-gatherers and other aboriginal peoples as having
less well-developed brains than whites.

Recently, her ideas and those of like-minded researchers have been
boosted by a study that shows chimpanzees to have the same structural
asymmetry as humans in an area of the brain associated with language
comprehension.

Preliminary evidence also suggests that bonobo mothers physically
interact with their young offspring in ways similar to the instructive
interaction of human mothers and infants, said Barbara
King, a biological anthropologist at William & Mary College in
Williamsburg, Virginia.

In King's preliminary study of a female ape called Matata and her young
offspring Elikya, the pair appeared to communicate through patterned
body movements. For example, the mother appeared to teach the infant to
walk by leading it across the floor while walking backwards.

"What this evidence suggests is that we can learn about language origins
by looking at species other than our own," said King, who stopped short
of describing the body communication as language.

She also cited similar studies by other scientists.

"There is at least one (bonobo) mother that is routinely teaching her
infant signals for when she wants to move off and join her group," King
said.

"She flexes her knees and looks back at the infant. And by doing this
repeatedly ... teaches her infant to jump on her back. She does this by
placing the infant up on a rock and having a practice
session."

By DAVID MORGAN, Reuters
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 10:00:44 -0800
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Too few doctors warn of heart risks, health officials say

Reuters News Service
ATLANTA, February 15, 1998

American doctors are failing to counsel their patients about ways to
reduce the risk of cardiovascular disease, which kills almost a million
Americans each year, federal health officials said on Thursday.

The American Heart Association said cardiovascular disease, which
claimed 960,592 lives in 1995, is the leading cause of death in the
United States.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention analyzed almost 30,000
visits to physicians and found fewer than one-fourth of the doctors
counseled their patients about behaviors that could greatly reduce the
risk of heart disease, the agency reported in its Morbidity and
Mortality Weekly Report.

"Only 19.1 percent of office visits included counseling for physical
activity, only 22.8 percent included counseling about diet and only 10.4
percent included counseling for weight reduction," CDC epidemiologist
Dr. Wayne Giles said.

He said doctors know the health benefits of changing patients' behavior,
but they wrongly fear their advice will not make any difference.

"Physicians often state that they feel that they are ill-prepared or
lack the training to counsel patients," Giles said. "Patients often
mention a physician's advice as a major motivating factor in
changing their behavior."

Fewer than half of the smokers who went to doctors' offices in 1995 were
advised to stop smoking, even though health benefits occur during the
first year of quitting.

"Once someone stops smoking, the benefits for cardiovascular disease are
achieved real quickly," Giles said.

Obstetricians and gynecologists were approximately half as likely as
cardiologists and family and general practitioners to counsel patients
about the benefits of physical activity, diet and weight
reduction in reducing the risk of cardiovascular disease, the CDC said.

"We need to increase education in other physician specialties about
cardiovascular disease prevention," Giles said.

"Twenty percent of the total U.S. population has one or more different
types of cardiovascular disease. That includes diseases such as high
blood pressure, coronary heart disease, stroke,
rheumatic fever, rheumatic heart disease and other forms of heart
disease," Giles said.

By MIKE COOPER, Reuters

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"... fear their advice will not make any difference"

Curiously, the fear that patients won't take their pills doesn't stop
the physician from prescribing them.

If students in medical schools were taught more about diet, exercise,
etc. and less about genetics and molecular biology, fewer people would
die of heart disease and no "pressing need" for animal-to-human organ
transplantation.

Andy
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 13:00:56 -0800
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Getty reflects on unexpected side effect
(UPI; 02/14/98)

By MARA BOVSUN
UPI Science News

PHILADELPHIA, Feb. 14 (UPI)áá The first man to receive a baboon bone
marrow transplant says he wasn't prepared for one of the major side
effects of the procedure jokes about bananas.

AIDS activist Jeff Getty says right after the transplant, he started
hearing a lot of bad jokes "about why I like to eat bananas," and about
his animal friends at the zoo.

He says the jibes were light-hearted at first. But, he says, "these
things did not stop."

When he started to talk to people about it, he says he found a deep-
seated anxiety, that they were not quite ready for humans to become part
animal.

Getty, who received the baboon bone marrow in 1995, says that there is a
deep seated psychological barrier against the practice. He believes that
barrier, not a worry about unleashing new viruses, is what lies behind
the controversy over moving ahead with experiments of animal-to- human
transplantsá known as xenotransplantion.

Suzanne Ildstad, the Allegheny University transplant surgeon who
conducted the experimental procedure on Getty, says she is not currently
working on the technique because she wants to work on other methods to
make human-to-human
transplants more successful.

She says, however, she believes the threat of animal-to-human disease
transmission are infinitesimal.

Getty, of Oakland, Calif., and Ildstad, Philadelphia, made their
comments today at the annual meeting also in Philadelphia, of the
American Association for the Advancement of Science.

He says now, the fear expressed by some scientists that using pigs,
primates and other animals as sources for transplant organs will unleash
a new plague like AIDS is really a smokescreen for an irrational worry
that the procedure will somehow make us less than human.

He says it is similar to some early fears about transplant surgery, like
the idea a person who gets the heart of a killer will become a killer.

Getty says after his bone marrow transplant scientists kept trying to
find evidence of a baboor virus in his blood. He says, "every time they
find a new baboon disease" they called him in for tests.

He says he felt, "the CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)
really wanted to find the virus, and that the pressure from it caused
anxiety so severe he had to see a psychiatrist.

He says, "If they did find that virus, what were they going to do to
me?"

Getty believes the experiment achieved its goals of testing the safety
of putting baboon bone marrow cells into a human body.

Getty says, however, "I believe I survived because of the transplant."

But he says his condition has started to decline again about a year ago,
and he is desperately looking for any experimental treatment.





Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 19:08:45 +0100
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Barcelona: Yesterday, twenty AR activist distribute information about how
make
a fur coats. The activist went to the famous sites of Barcelona: Las Ramblas,
Catalonian Square and Passeig de Gracia.

Don't exist accidents and the protest was very still

Jordi Ni±erola from Barcelona.

My web against fur coats is:

<http://www.geocities.com/rainforest/vines/6506/pellcas.htm>http://www.geoc
ities.com/rainforest/vines/6506/pellcas.htm

Visiteu les meves pαgines / Visit my homepages

<http://www.geocities.com/rainforest/vines/6506>http://www.geocities.com/ra
inforest/vines/6506
<http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/loge/3128>http://www.geocities.com/colo
sseum/loge/3128
<http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/academy/2855>http://www.geocities.com/h
ollywood/academy/2855

Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 13:24:22 EST
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A/w Oklahoma City hunting news:

Oklahoma will again host Quail Unlimited's National Dog of the
Year Field trial on March 26th thru the 27th at the Red Rock
Ranch 15 miles SE of Ponca City, Okla.á There is an evening
banquet open to the public at the Marland Mansion in Ponca City.
The winning dog will be featured on the cover of QU magazine,
and have bragging rights as the best bird dog in the country.
The field is limited to 64 entries, which will be selected by committee.
To insure the best dogs will be competing for the top honor,
priority will be given to dogs with field trial placements.
Dogs must be handled by their owners, and the winner must be
a member of QU and the entry fee is $175, with a cash purse of
$5000.á Proceeds from the event will benefit quail research, Covey
Camp for kids, and habitat improvement programs.

Now that Bass'n Gal has folded, women anglers may be interested
in the Women's Bass Fishing Ass., which is promoting women's bass
tournaments. This organization is based in Pelham, Alabama.

John Streich, Okla. Wildlife Dept. Law Enforcement Chief, told
the Okla. Wildlife Commission that members of his division will host
the state's first Youth Law Enforcement Camp in June at Camp
McFadden near Ponca City, Okla.
The conservation education camp will be open to youths ages 14 to
16, with registration limited to 35.á The camp will be sponsored by a
no. of businesses and individuals, with Conoco Oil Co. contributing
the cost of printing and distributing the brochures/application forms.
The brochures will be available at all Conoco gas stations statewide.
Participants will be selected based on short essays and letters of
recommendation.

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 13:24:29 EST
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A/w local Okla. City hunting news:

Max Montgomery can't honestly say Wylie is his best bird dog,
but that's partly because Wylie isn't a dog.á Wylie is a coyote.
Montgomery, a 50 year old rancher from Western Okla., adopted
the coyote when it was only a pup soon after its mother was shot
and killed by another man.á Montgomery hoped to raise it as a pet.
Not only did that work out, but Wylie amazed his owner by quickly
taking up with (and emulating) the six bird dogs on the ranch.
Now, at younger than a year old, Wylie sometimes beats them at
their own game.á With his blaze orange collar and his tail spray-painted
the same color for safety in the field, he is becoming known as
a bird-hunting coyote.
"I've never penned him up and never had a rope or anything on him. He's
free to go if he wants.á And I never dreamed you could hunt with him,"
said Montgomery.
When Wylie started tagging along on quail hunts, and proved not to be
a bit gun shy, his onwer began encouraging the coyote to keep learning.
"He catches on quick.á He's eight months old, and an eight-month-old
bird dog ain't worth a flip.á He's got a lot better nose than a bird dog."
When not hunting, the young coyote is pretty much like a dog on
the place, eating, lazing about and occasionally snarling and romping
with his more domesticated companions, but he sleeps outside at night
regardless of the weather and hows and yips instead of barking.
He's as friendly with most visitors, as he is with his owner, obviously
enjoying being petted.á
During the five times Wylie has taken afield during the past quail season,
Montgomery said the coyote has helped find numerous coveys,
pointed out three individual birds by himself and retrieved six dead birds.
Montgomery rates his coyote "excellent" at retrieving.
Well, almost.á Of those six birds, Mongomery got only four.

áááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááá For the Animals,

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 13:24:35 EST
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Subject: (US) Okla. Wildlife Dept. Financial Problems
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A/w Oklahoma hunting news:

The Oklahoma Wildlife Dept.'s financial situation is not rosy, which
sooner or later is going to hit you - the hunting and fishing public -
right in the pocket book.á For those who delve into widlife politics
often remind themselves that the department is supported mainly thru
the sales of hunting and fishing licenses (and a small fee on car tag
renewals which we all pay).á That gives the agency immunity of
sorts from political meddling, but it is a mixed blessing.
When the Dept. falls on hard times, the folks who buy the hunting
and fishing licenses must ante up.á The agency is not ready right
now to ask the Okla. Legislature for another increase in license
fees, but it is looking seriously at it the request.á The Okla. Legislature
retains the right to approve license fees and the last one, on Jan. 1,
1995, hiked the cost of regular licenses by $2.25 each, and increased
some others as well.
The Legislature may dictate a pay raise of 7.5 percent for all state
employees, an unanticipated expenditure that would quickly bring
the impending crisis to a head. With a 1997-98 budget of $24.1
million, the department is already failing to make ends meet thru
regular means.á Since 1993, it has been using interest from the
untouchable lifetime license fund to meet routine expenses.
During the last fiscal year, revenue fell short by $3,491,089.
Possible solutions to the problem include allowing the commission
to invest in higher yield accounts, generating new revenues from
nontraditional sources, a deeper budget cut or the inevitable license
fee increase.
The dept. has already cut last year's budget by 2% and is planning
to do the same this year.á No funds have been budgeted for
capital improvements or land acquisition.
Other steps will be forthcoming during the commision's April
meeting.

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 11:33:43 -0800
From: "Bob Schlesinger" <[e-mail]>
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The following editorial appeared in today's Oregonian.á The Oregonian,
published in Portland,á is the
state's major daily newspaper.á To anyone outside of Oregon, it should now be
even more clear
why we have such problems with attitudes about animals in this state and what
we are up against.

The Oregonian has either ignored or trivialized the story of Nadas from the
beginning.á However, now,
after being upstaged by the LA times in their own backyard, the editorial
staff
feels a need
to fight back.á They have refused to cover the issues of how the livestock law
violates constitutional
equal protection clauses and how it is implemented locally without fair and
legal hearings.

By the way, the Oregonian now insists on spelling Nadas' name N-A-T-A-S
because
that
way it can make a big deal about it being satan spelled backwards, which seems
to be of
importance to this paper.

You can write to the Oregonian and/or call the members of their editorial
board:

[e-mail]ááá (for letters to the editor)

[e-mail]ááá (direct email to the editorial board)

Or write to:
Letters,
The Oregonian
1320 SW Broadway
Portland, ORá 97201
FAX:á [phone]

Or call:
Robert J. Caldwell, Editorial Page Editorááá [phone]

-Bob Schlesinger
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Reprinted from The Oregonian
Editorial Page
February 15, 1998



PUT A MUZZLE ON IT

All this woofing over Oregon's dog law is unnecessary;
counties can write ordinances to quickly resolve disputes



Natas lives, Jessie is outside running after sticks, and that cuddly
Chase is in beagle heaven, a victim of epilepsy, not euthanasia.
That's the latest word on Oregon's death-row dogs.

And, if we're lucky, the last word.á Jackson County commissioners
finally may have quelled an international barking chain set off by their
decision to order the death of Natas, a dog caught chasing a horse
in 1996.

The commissioners were flooded with mail and phone calls after
"Hard Copy" and "The National Enquirer" did sob stories on the
condemned dog.á Death sentences for Chase and Jessie, two
Deschutes County dogs that harassed a herd of sheep, prompted
a similar outcry.

The uproar prompted the Legislature to consider altering the state
law requiring that dogs caught chasing livestock be put to death.
But farm groups growled, and Legislators pitched the issue back
to the counties where it belongs.

One dog-livestock law can't fit all Oregon counties.á In urbanizing
counties such as Jackson and Deschutes, where new subdivisions
bump up against farms, it makes sense to allow some leniency in
cases where dogs chase livestock.á In the farm country of Eastern
Oregon, it's still goodbye dog.á If Natas had run a horse in Harney
County, the dog wouldn't have lived long enough to become an
Internet cause celebre.

That's as it should be.á Oregon counties should craft their own dog
ordinances, as Jackson and Deschutes have done, and then act
quickly and humanely to enforce them.

Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 15:59:25 -0500
From: "Leslie Lindemann" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: info request
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Hello all!
I'm looking for AR/Veg groups or people in Michigan. Anyone out there?
Leslie
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 98 11:59:05 PST
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from the Maui News:

Friday, February 13, 1998

Panel moves to limit netting tropical fish


By LISA MARINELLI

The Associated Press

HONOLULU -- A House committee took a first step Thursday toward limiting
the capture of tropical fish in Big Island waters to supply pet shops
and home aquariums around the country.

After rejecting an outright ban along the Big Island's west coast, the
Ocean Recreation and Marine Resources Committee adopted a plan setting
aside a portion of that area as a sanctuary for tropical fish.

In October 1999, part of that same area would become a no-capture
sanctuary for all fish. The sanctuary would include waters up to 200
meters deep.

During Thursday's packed hearing, the survival of small business clashed
with the importance of the Big Island's tourism industry.

The state's $50 million dive tourism industry, which needs the fish to
entertain snorkelers and scuba divers, disagreed with the $10 million
tropical fish industry, which sends the neon-colored fish across the
United States.

Lawmakers cast their votes for tighter controls after rejecting an
outright ban in waters from Kawaihae to Milolii, about a 60-mile
stretch.

``Clearly both industries are very important,'' said committee Chairman
Rep. David Tarnas, whose North Kona-South Kohala district would include
the sanctuary. ``I'm trying to figure out a way that you can have
both.''

The compromise was reached after hours of testimony from the
standing-room-only crowd, many of whom flew in from the Big Island. The
measure now goes to the House Finance Committee for further review.

The Lost Fish Coalition presented a petition with 3,725 signatures
supporting an outright ban on collecting the fish. Those signatures were
gathered over a six-month period.

``These fish collectors are merely whining that they can't work right in
the waters off their own homes,'' said the coalition's Tina Owens. ``We
don't feel this is a legitimate complaint.''

Others said the tropical fish -- including yellow tang, blue-stripe
butterflies and banded angels -- offer rare opportunities for tourists
to view aquatic life in a natural setting.

``Tropical fish are a resource that belong to all the inhabitants,''
said Colin Gould, captain for Westwind sailing charters in Kailua-Kona.
``If there are no tropical reef fish, there will be no tourism.''

But Rep. Cynthia Henry Thielen, R-Oahu, said she could not support the
ban.

``I think we have to reach a balance, and I don't think it's by
squashing the aquarium fish collector,'' she said.

Most of the fish collectors present said they favor a management plan
but believe they should not be singled out as the source of fish
depletion in that coastal region.

``The diving industry and we can be managed and still work together,''
said Al Estencion of Kona, vice president of the Hawaii Tropical Fish
Association.

The collectors presented 300 signatures Wednesday to forward their
cause.

****************************************************************************
****************************
"The question is not whether we will be extremists, but what kind of
extremists
will we be."

Dr. Martin Luther King

Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 17:26:13 PST
From: "Cari Gehl" <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Fwd: Re: (NY) Burned Kitten Dies
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Content-Type: text/plain

Hi everyone -

Someone was kind enough to e-mail me regarding the post I made (see
below) inquiring about the address of the web site that is mentioned in
the article.á I was so upset when I initially read it, that I failed to
even notice that it mentioned one (sorry)!á There was no address or link
on the page that had the article but I did some searching and was able
to come up with the address.á It's at:

<http://www.localnet.com/~pijo/>http://www.localnet.com/~pijo/

The web site includes a message board, updates on the case, and links to
similar sites.á There is also a new alert posted.á It seems that one of
their local radio d.j.'s saw fit to make fun of the situation.á The web
site owner's posted this alert:


from:
<http://www.localnet.com/~pijo/radio.html----------------->http://www.localn
et.com/~pijo/radio.html-----------------

In order to be as accurate as possible, we are going to add an audio
clip. It is in wav format, do you will need to be able to play .wav
files to hear it.

here is the clip of the fatman in his own words as to what happened:

fatman "We discussed, Chris and I here on the show, about how it made
for a funny picture in our minds, the thought, and the picture of a cat
running down the
street on fire."

Lou Desantis spoke about how cruelty towards animals is perpetuated by a
seeming apporval by society, and that while the fatman did say it was a
terrible thing and felt bad that this happened, by saying it made a
funny picture, he did perpetuate the problem.
He went on to say that the fatman, being on mass media had a
responsibilty to work against cruelty to animals. Chris and the fatman
responded that they had no responsibility "for people who do stupid
things"

Lou asked what fatmans feelings were on animal abuse, and fatman
responded that he thought it was wrong.

The show quickly became an argument where fatman blasted animal rights
activists, saying that animals were not as important as people, and that
people were comparing his child and all children to animals.
(editors note --- in dealing with abuse, both are just as wrong. This
was the point being made by Lou Desantis. The fatman, took the stance
that pain is unavoidable, and better the animals than people go through
the suffering.)

Again the address and numbers for the radio station, and the fatman are:

KROCK
P.O. BOX 100
Syracuse NY 13217

General Manager:
Ed Levine
<Above address>

Phone:
[phone]
or:
[phone]

Web URL:
<http://www.krock.com/>http://www.krock.com

E-mail address of "fatman"
[e-mail]

end website info-----------------

There is also info on the reward and vet care funds as follows:

with the vet costs for Cindy,
you can send donations to

"Cindy's Fund"
Fayetteville Veterinary Hospital
8122 E. Genesee St.
Fayetteville, NY 13066


A fund has also been established to help find and prosecute
the person who set Cindy on fire, as well as other acts
of animal cruelty.
To donate to the SPCA PACT Fund
(animal cruelty prosecution fund)
send all donations to:

SPCA PACT FUND
5878 E. Molloy Rd.
Syracuse, NY 13211

---------------------------

Please feel free to forward this to anyone that might be concerned.á
Thanks and take care,
Cari



>
>What's the URL for the Web site?
>
>
>
>Cari Gehl wrote:
>>
>> While looking for news articles on the Conrail oil spill, I ran into
>> this article on the Syracuse Post-Standard web site.á Does anyone
have
>> any more info on this (addresses to write to, updates, etc.)?
>>
>> Thanks and take care,
>> Cari Gehl
>>
>> -----------------------------------------
>> Burned Kitten Dies
>>
>> Cruel act that killed Cindy prompted a reward offer and a site on the
>> Worldwide Web.
>>
>> Published Feb. 11, 1998, in The Post-Standard.
>>
>> By PETER ORTIZ
>>
>> A kitten that galvanized supporters from around the world after it
was
>> set on fire last week in Syracuse died Tuesday morning.
>>
>> Cindy was about 6 months old when she was found engulfed in a ball of
>> flames by a Syracuse man riding his bicycle in the 600 block of South
>> Salina Street Feb. 4. Dr. Robert Putnam of the Fayetteville
Veterinary
>> Hospital said Cindy died of general organ failure due to toxins from
the
>> burns she suffered.
>>
>> "She certainly has touched a lot of people, and I just wished she
could
>> have pulled through," Putnam said.
>>
>> Cindy's story touched people in Canada and as far away as South
Africa
>> after a Syracuse couple created a Web page detailing her plight.
Pilot
>> Towers and Joan Conley said they decide to create the Web page to
inform
>> people and take pressure off the veterinarian staff who were
bombarded
>> with phone calls.
>>
>> A pet owner from South Africa said she would donate blankets and food
to
>> her local SPCA in honor of Cindy. Other Web browsers expressed
sympathy
>> and outrage. About 400 people had visited the Web page by Tuesday.
>>
>> "We have had private e-mail from people who want to adopt and from
>> people who want to work on legislative measures" against animal
cruelty,
>> Conley said.
>>
>> Syracuse police say they have a possible suspect in the burning, but
no
>> arrest has been made yet.
>>
>> Betsie Puffer, animal cruelty investigator, said she hopes Cindy's
death
>> encourages people to report cases of animal cruelty.
>>
>> "Thankfully she is not suffering anymore," Puffer said.
>>
>> Cindy's killer can face a misdemeanor count of unjustifiable killing
of
>> an animal, Puffer said. The maximum penalty under the charge is one
year
>> in jail or a $1,000 fine, she said.
>>
>> The Central New York Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals
>> has offered a $1,000 award to anyone with information that leads to
an
>> arrest in the kitten burning.
>>
>> Cindy suffered severe burns throughout her body and lost most of her
>> hair.
>>
>> Donations that have been sent for Cindy's care will probably go
toward
>> her burial at Pet Haven Cemetery, Putnam said.
>>
>> Contributions in care of cruelty investigations for the SPCA's
>> Prosecuting Animal Cruelty Together (PACT) program can be sent to the
>> Central New York SPCA, 5878 E. Molloy Road, Syracuse 13211. The phone
>> number is 454-3469 or 454-4479.
>>
>> Copyright (c) 1998 The Herald Company. All rights reserved. The
material
>> on this site may not be reproduced, except for personal,
non-commercial
>> use, and may not be distributed,
>> transmitted or otherwise used, except with the prior written
permission
>> of Syracuse OnLine.
>>


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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 22:57:44 -0600 (CST)
From: [e-mail] (Barbara Stagno)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Pace U. Law Conference on Animals in Entertainment
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Here is the official posting for the conference which was sent to me by
the Suzan Porto, the conference coordinator.

1998 ANIMAL AND THE LAW CONFERENCE

The 1998 Animals and the Law Conference, "That's Entertainment? - The
Use of Nonhuman Animals for Human Amusement," will be held at Pace
University School of Law in White Plains, NY on Saturday, March 21.

Notable speakers including Valerie Stanley, Esq. (ALDF), Katie M.
Brophy, Esq. (ALDF), Peggy Larson, DVM (rodeo specialist), Pat Derby
(PAWS), Jane Garrison, (PETA), Naomi Rose (HSUS), Wayne Pacelle (HSUS),
Gary Francione, and others, will explore the use of nonhuman animals in
ciruses, zoos, marine mammal parks rodeos, Greyhound racing and for
sport/trophy hunting.

Please contact Adjunct Professor Suzan Porto ASAP at 914-937-5605 or
write to her
c/o Pace University School of Law
78 North Broadway
White Plains, NY 10603
to receive further information or a conference brochure.



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